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Post by Matt Stout on Apr 8, 2014 16:25:40 GMT -6
It is very important that you understand our online forums are a place we have created for others to go for advice when going through rough times in life. With that being said our online forums are a judgment free zone. By creating account or posting on the online forums you agree to be judgment free to anyone posting on the site. Anyone found judging others will be ban from the forums, and any future benefits from LGBTSupport.org. With that being said...
Lets face it... No relationship is a walk in the park. Every relationship has its good days, and its bad days. This thread is here for all things relationship related! Feel free to start a new topic and share your relationship highs, and lows. If you need relationship advice this is the place to come! We are here to help! We also love celebrating! Did you just get engaged? Start a new relationship? Get married? Share it here! We love to share your happiness with you!
I'll start...
I am lucky enough to have the most amazing partner I could ever ask for. He never stops amazing me, and I am beyond thankful to have him in my life. He is my fairy-tale ending... my dream come true... the love of my life!! ~Matt
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 4:32:48 GMT -6
I'm so happy for you that you've found your true love. It's an amazing thing.
My boyfriend of two years was my entire world, I was completely and utterly invested in him. But unfortunately last month he broke it off and my whole world came crashing down. I still haven't been the same since. They say time is a healer but I've yet to feel it's affects, it's still hard for me because I think about him every day. It's made me quite depressed ever since.
I hope I find someone else, soon, ha.
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Post by Matt Stout on Apr 27, 2014 11:28:58 GMT -6
I am so sorry about your loss. It is always so hard to lose someone you truly love... Especially after being together for YEARS! When you think about him, take a few moments... Remember the good times, and learn to slowly accept that "the past is in the past... Let it go... Let it go..." and eventually you will come around. Soon enough you will find the happy you that you use to be. Just don't let this get you to far down. I'm always here to talk, let me know if you need anything! ~Matt
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Post by n8vdude on Apr 27, 2014 15:35:26 GMT -6
I'm so happy for you that you've found your true love. It's an amazing thing. My boyfriend of two years was my entire world, I was completely and utterly invested in him. But unfortunately last month he broke it off and my whole world came crashing down. I still haven't been the same since. They say time is a healer but I've yet to feel it's affects, it's still hard for me because I think about him every day. It's made me quite depressed ever since. I hope I find someone else, soon, ha. Kaycee- I know I don't know you or the extent of what you're feeling, but what I can say is that there needs to be an effort on your part (which you seem to be making just having the conversation) to move on. Believe me, I completely understand what you're going through. I was in a 10 year long relationship that just withered on the vine. Not because of some growing animosity or mistrust, just faded. We grew apart. The odd thing was, we had been working towards relocating to San Francisco from San Diego for a couple of years. It was sort of our ideal to be in that city to the north (from where we were) but we wanted to do it smart, we had a goal and we worked towards it. As the time came for the move we actively pursued the job market, all seemed well and good. Except it wasn't. Little fissures started to become bigger, again not through any kind of ill feelings but just that the move, when it happened, started to highlight how far we'd grown apart as people. We wanted very different things. The move only put it out there where we could no longer deny it. I loved him (still do to this day on some level) but after we finally unplugged from our life in San Diego, we realized it was over. It was sad in it's lingering silence between us. Painful, not from heated words but the absolute nothing that stood between us. We were cordial, we were friendly, but also we were both quite empty. So there I was, in a new city with NO friends, a new job, and no partner that had been my rock for 10 years. I was sad, I was bewildered, but oddly enough, you know what got me through? The small seed that somewhere something kicked in that while I was feeling all of those things I realized I never felt more alive in that everything had an immense intensity to it. Even the desolation of not having someone there was intense. It hurt, it was staggering in the absence but what I did was I made a conscious choice to say to myself, "okay, embrace that... and do something about it." So I forced myself to get involved. I did things that put me out there. Willingly. At first it was utter shit - going through the motions - but in the course of my zombie like amble through each place I'd forced myself into, I found I made a boat load of new friends. I began to see others socially, more out of filling the time of not having someone there. I began to chat up some people online in the area and eventually met the man who I eventually married (been together for 20 years as of this year and married legally since '08). So yeah, I could've given in. I could've tossed in the towel. But you know what I see when I look at your picture, what I read in your gentle and well thought out prose? I see a brilliant light that is struggling to get out. A gem that needs the gentle hand of someone who cares enough to wipe away the pain you've wrapped yourself in. He's out there. I swear to you he is. We are usually trapped in our insular worlds, thinking that once something is gone we won't ever have it again. Well, we're right in one sense - we won't have that again, but it doesn't mean we won't have better. It doesn't guarantee that that was the ONLY chance we had at happiness. There are six billion plus on the planet - and if we go with the whole gay thing about we're like 10 percent of the population and then we divide that up between men/women and bi/trans that's still some fairly big numbers of possibilities and potentials out there. Sure they're spread out around the globe, but I'm telling you, he's out there. That's the journey you're on. An Indiana Jones of the heart, so to speak. Try to think of it as the ultimate adventure. I know it's hard. Believe me, I've been there. And I am in no way equating what I went through to lessen your pain or languishing stagnation. But you have to love yourself enough to get back into the game. No one will love you more than you do. You have to love yourself enough to say, "Dammit, I am good enough. That man is out there, and it's up to me to find him." Is it luck? Sure... there's some of that. But I firmly believe that there is someone out there for each of us. Just some of us choose to give up the chase, throw the towel in early because of a bad experience. That's only shortchanging yourself. I think your worth far more than that. From your postings I can see you're a thoughtful individual who has not only a great intellect, but I kind heart at its core. That's a fairly winning combination in the gay stratosphere. Believe me, in my many years I have found several with one but not the other. Happens far too much in our world - smart as all hell but no heart to speak of, or a heart of gold that doesn't have the brains to tell everyone to stop taking advantage of them because they're kind. You seem to possess both. That's bloody brilliant in my book. But as I've said (or rambled as this entry is waaaay longer than I should expect ANYONE to read), you've got to find it within yourself to put yourself back out there. Go through the motions (it's a start), become involved in the local lgbt center (if your city/town has one) if not, then get involved in some other way that gets you into mixing it up again with others. You'd be surprised how forcing yourself through those first steps back out into the throng of things, while painful and a drudge, ultimately do pay off. Life's an adventure... you just gotta want to rise to the challenge and get back in the game. My personal wish for you, after reading your blog and the postings here, that you find the real Mr. Right... even if you have to kiss a few Mr. Right-Now's to find him. Finding your Prince is no easy task, but (and I'll color this with my 20 year relationship where we've never really had an argument or fight - he complements me in every way possible as I aspire to do the same for him after all this time) I'll tell you it's worth it. The search, the strive to find him, when it ultimately happens is over the top amazing. That's when the real adventure begins. Looking back on my previous 10 year relationship. Yeah, I miss him. We still talk from time to time - it's pleasant but not the same. I've told him that my wish is to one day sit on a porch in our seventies and he can tell me what happened to him after we parted twenty years ago. He's told me he would love to do that. To have a real heart to heart after all those years apart. We'll see. The odd thing is, I can feel a lingering loss from that relationship, but it pales in comparison to what I have now. So you never really lose the pain, but you'll find it more a curiosity that it's still there after the sands of time have beat upon it as you've moved on. And you will. One way or another, it just happens. But my wish for you is to find the courage and love within and get back out there. Believe me, that man for you? Yeah, he needs you as much as you need him. And he's just as lost without you - you just don't know it, neither of you do. I've found a gay artist that I absolutely love, he's a brilliant word and tunesmith (a real modern-day bard) and his name is Jay Brannan. If you've haven't heard of him, check him out. As an older gay man I wish I had someone like him around to give me hope through song. He touches upon all the varied aspects of what we go through as gay men. He's absolutely amazing - a mix of the light and dark in us all. Give a listen to 'Housewife' I think the last lines of that song will give you some perspective on things. Anyway, sorry for the ramble. I tend to write in a stream of consciousness. I'll try to keep it in check going forward. All my best (truly). Baz
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 16:57:32 GMT -6
n8vdude Thank you for that, that speech was really beautiful and moving. It helped and it's great to read how wonderfully happy and content you are with your love life right now, I hope to find that someday. I guess the worst thing for me is shock, I hoped that things would wither out eventually, but it's sad when I'm still trying to hang on and he's given up. But looking back I'm starting to find more peace of mind. I'll have days where I physically can't leave the bed, but then most of the time I've noticed I'm a lot happier. It's all a sign of things getting better. it's very hard right now with school and just general life being a pain, but your story and words really did help me. Thank you again for that.
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Post by n8vdude on Apr 27, 2014 22:14:42 GMT -6
n8vdude Thank you for that, that speech was really beautiful and moving. It helped and it's great to read how wonderfully happy and content you are with your love life right now, I hope to find that someday. I guess the worst thing for me is shock, I hoped that things would wither out eventually, but it's sad when I'm still trying to hang on and he's given up. But looking back I'm starting to find more peace of mind. I'll have days where I physically can't leave the bed, but then most of the time I've noticed I'm a lot happier. It's all a sign of things getting better. it's very hard right now with school and just general life being a pain, but your story and words really did help me. Thank you again for that. I am only too glad to have helped (even if it was just a little). It's actually one of the reasons I decided to become a writer. My first book deals a bit with what you're going through. It's basically the story of a artistic geek of a boy who thinks he's the only gay kid in his small Northern California town. He sees nothing but danger from the social elite at school to the banality of working at his parents ice cream shop. He thinks his life will be insular and unremarkable. During the summer vacation between his junior and senior year in high school while working at the shop the star quarterback of their (American) varsity football team comes into the store (when no one else is around in the store) and confesses that he not only knows about Elliot (my main character) being gay, he tells Elliot that he's been in love with him for two years and he can't keep it to himself any longer. It mind blowingly throws Elliot's world off kilter. The only reason I am relaying any of this to you (other than a shameless plug - just kidding) is that I wanted to explore a relationship where the gay kid is the one who keeps questioning the validity of what his jock boyfriend (who never once wavers in his devotion to Elliot) keeps telling him is real. I wanted to turn it around that if, as gay men, we were given what we dreamed of, what we aspired to, what would we do with it? Would we trust it? Or because of some strange internal strife or destructive behavior would we sabotage it. So my lovers have to learn how to work within their burgeoning relationship while dealing with the pressures of being in high school where one of them is in the spotlight everywhere he goes and the other lives in the shadows, dreaming of the light. I wanted, for once, to put the open gay kid in a position to love himself enough to embrace what's being given to him and to cherish it - because something can always come along to upset the precarious balance that is life. And of course, invariably, it does. Believe it or not, your blog has given me some really great moments to ponder upon. The first book is from Elliot's perspective, the second is from Marco (his jock boyfriend's perspective) and your blog, which I have now happened upon at a very opportune time for me while I am writing the second novel, has really given me something to mentally chew on. So thank you for that. You've given this seasoned gay guy something to think upon as I recall and reminisce about those long ago days of my youth and the jock boyfriend I had for the better part of my senior year (which was the impetus for the story). You've given my Elliot character some new perspectives to play with. So again, thank you. All my best, B.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 7:19:25 GMT -6
n8vdudeWow, sounds like a very interesting story! I hope to be a writer someday myself, maybe not books, but I bet I could come up with a semi-interesting memoir one day. haha! It's really wonderful to hear that my blog has had some sort of impact or effect on somebody, that's exactly what I wanted to happen when I started it. I'd always been scared of making a blog and putting my thoughts and feelings out there for the world. But again, I'm very happy and grateful that you like.
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Post by memee on Sept 15, 2014 14:27:17 GMT -6
please help!!!:bang: i am 37, straight, female. today i found a text message in my daughters phone where she told a schoolmate that she was bi. It is my impression that bisexuals are equally sexually aroused by men as they are by women. is this true? Physically? I great portion of my problem with this does not come from an anti-gay place in my mind, its just hard to grasp what makes a girl that likes boys think that she should become sexually active with a girl. It has been my experience that young girls are made to feel like they must be gay if they can tell another girl is attractive. Soooo... I thought i was gay well into my freshman year in college but then i realized that all the other girls were just lying and everyone could tell who was "aesthetically beautiful" (based on social norms.) how can i help her discover her truth and how can i open the door to this conversation without scaring her, since she is obviously keeping secrets from me and does not feel open to tell me. I have tried being very approachable during convo. and i often bring up issues of sexual relations.(for Years). I blame media and society in general. I dont know the right answer but often it seems like being gay is being promoted as just a choice people can make. I want straight kids to grow up without being hustled into being gay just as much as i dont want gay kids gowing up never seeing positive lbgt families or relationships in the media. just so you know i believe some people are born gay, some people become gay due to life experiences and/or choices. I don’t really know a good way to describe my beliefs about bisexuals so i wont try. please tell me what you think i should do and/or definitely not do.
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Post by Sav on Sept 15, 2014 21:47:07 GMT -6
please help!!!:bang: i am 37, straight, female. today i found a text message in my daughters phone where she told a schoolmate that she was bi. It is my impression that bisexuals are equally sexually aroused by men as they are by women. is this true? Physically? I great portion of my problem with this does not come from an anti-gay place in my mind, its just hard to grasp what makes a girl that likes boys think that she should become sexually active with a girl. It has been my experience that young girls are made to feel like they must be gay if they can tell another girl is attractive. Soooo... I thought i was gay well into my freshman year in college but then i realized that all the other girls were just lying and everyone could tell who was "aesthetically beautiful" (based on social norms.) how can i help her discover her truth and how can i open the door to this conversation without scaring her, since she is obviously keeping secrets from me and does not feel open to tell me. I have tried being very approachable during convo. and i often bring up issues of sexual relations.(for Years). I blame media and society in general. I dont know the right answer but often it seems like being gay is being promoted as just a choice people can make. I want straight kids to grow up without being hustled into being gay just as much as i dont want gay kids gowing up never seeing positive lbgt families or relationships in the media. just so you know i believe some people are born gay, some people become gay due to life experiences and/or choices. I don’t really know a good way to describe my beliefs about bisexuals so i wont try. please tell me what you think i should do and/or definitely not do. Hey there, I'm a bisexual who has come out to her mother before and has dealt with us coming to terms with the idea as mother and daughter over the last 5 years First thing to clarify is that sexual attraction, sexual arousal and sexual action is different. Bisexuality relates to attraction in a relationship sense, not just sexual arousal. Your daughter has been given the fantastic ability to love people for their hearts regardless of their gender. People can also be bisexual and be attracted to various genders without acting on these attractions. If your concern is on her sexual action. A common misconception is that bisexuals are more promiscuous than other sexualities and this is not true. Your daughter's sexual activity levels will not be influenced by her attraction to girls as well as boys. I know many friend who are bisexual as well as being abstinent Second thing is that bisexuality can be a journey for some people in finding out their true sexuality, and this may have been true for you. Exploration of sexuality is part of most peoples lives and people may use the label of bisexuality to express this curiosity for other genders. However for some people, like me, it is a permanent sexuality. It has been scientifically proven that people can be bisexual over their lifetime and that it is not always a state of limbo while people figure out their 'real' sexuality. Regardless of how your daughter identifies in the future, she will need your support now. It is what she is experiencing at the moment, regardless of whether that will change or not. Act as though it is not likely to change and this will help show your support for her. The way you have experienced attraction may be different to the way she does and assuming your experiences will be mimicked in her is not great. Remember, the only person who knows what she is experiencing and the emotions she is feeling is her. If she feels as though bisexuality explains this, then believing her is the first step to accepting her. Thirdly, the idea that the media encourages people to be gay is not true. Representation in the media allows people who may experience attraction (whether this ends up changing their orientation or not) to be more comfortable with this experience and allows people around them to be more informed of what it means when they do come out. If your child is beginning to express their identity as anything other than straight, chances are they have thought about it a lot. The LBGT community still meet a lot of stigma in todays society, whether it is obvious homophobia or subtle exclusion and if someone is considering coming out they will very much notice these things. Coming out is not something to be taken lightly - it is a very hard thing to do. People do not usually do this unless they are quite sure attraction is occuring and are open to exploring it as an option. Thirdly, coming out can be hard for anyone, especially to parents. My main obstacle when I was coming out to my family was not trust or the idea that they would be unsupportive of same-sex relationships (They have never had any problem with that and I would feel very comfortable introducing them to a same-sex partner) but the idea that they would not believe me. If you have expressed previously any doubts towards the validity or legitimacy of bisexuality, your daughter may have picked up on them and be scared you will not believe her. Not believing someone is being truthful or that the attraction they are feeling is not real is one of the scary things about coming out, and disbelieve is a form of being unsupportive. IF your daughter feels she is in a supportive environment, she is more likely to be open to a conversation with you about the topic. My advice to you would be to read up on bisexuality online. There are tonnes of pamphlets and information sets provided by PFLAG and LBGT groups designed to help parents come to terms with their childs new-found orientation and starting a discussion with them about orientation. My mother had many of the same ideas as you, and we have managed to deal with me coming out and her learning about bisexuality without it effecting out relationship. This is all based on my readings and personal experiences, so I hope it will be helpful in you and your daughters journey too
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Post by lbgt4memee on Sept 19, 2014 22:27:35 GMT -6
this was very helpful, thank you for responding. i will follow your advice and try to create an arena where she is comfortable to discuss this issue with me. i must admit that im getting a little angry about the whole subject. 1st. - of course i am concerned about her sexual activity. I do not believe sexual promiscuity is reserved for the gay community. 2nd. all the stuff ive been reading involves all these people readily attempting to hide their true feelings from their loved ones. in most situations the outside world knows but not the family. This is sooooooo stupid to me. of course there are exceptions but most people have loving family who accept and love them regardless of the choices they make. if you don't believe me check out visiting day at any prison. Even murders, rapist, drug dealers feel like their family will still love them its just stupid to think your family wont love you if you love the same sex person but if you kill somebody they would still love you. here is a science experiment, i'm going to ask her now i will return with her random answer. ok i just asked if she kill a mother her two children the grandmother father and the family dog got arrested and imprisoned did she think ii would still love her? she said as she held two hands over her sternum ( center of her chest) "of course you would love me you're my mother. you might be like o you are mentally ill but you would love me and wipe my slobber." i knew it.!!! this hide from the one you love theory is stupid and make gay people more susceptible to bad living environments, seclusion, depression and suicide. i will let you know how it turns out. thanks
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